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. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching the truth and obama not catching him. let's watch. >> the anniversary gift, i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i'll have the secret service distract michelle while i hit the hotel gift shop for some kind of anniversary present. they had a denver broncos sweatshirt. she might like that. the hotel had some nice bathrobes for sale. that could be good. >> excuse me, governor, mr. president? >> i'm sorry, yeah, yeah. what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden. would you care to respond? >> no, you two go ahead. >> with me now is li
. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching the truth...
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i think jim is right from a political perspective. if you haven't done it yet and you've taken as much flack for it as you have, why do it now because now you're still going to take all the flack for not releasing details all the way up until now -- >> and what happened is actually mitt romney did try to sort of -- he provided that answer about a week ago when he said, well, maybe we'll have a bucket and he did this -- and he speculated -- >> 17,000. >> all of a sudden said, okay -- >> they backed off of that and how did they back off on it? saying we're not going to do any kind of redistributive kind -- you know who got angry about that. i think because he had a good performance people will take a second look. >> it's part of the second look. all right. let's end on a shameless plug now. shameless plug, happy note. jim, go. >> my son is getting a good citizenship award in his first month in kindergarten next week. aren't i fun, loveable, warm guy? >> my son needs to know he's supposed to get an excellent and not a good on his behavio
i think jim is right from a political perspective. if you haven't done it yet and you've taken as much flack for it as you have, why do it now because now you're still going to take all the flack for not releasing details all the way up until now -- >> and what happened is actually mitt romney did try to sort of -- he provided that answer about a week ago when he said, well, maybe we'll have a bucket and he did this -- and he speculated -- >> 17,000. >> all of a sudden said,...
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i am happy that jim lehrer was willing to ask us our positions on issues and we could describe those. it was not a big gotcha night from the moderator, but instead, a chance for the president and i to go toe to toe on important issues people care about. i thought it was a helpful night n. final analysis, people will decide what kind of america they want. >> sean: congressman ryan, you are up next. there have been a lot of controversial statement, but to save time, in recent weeks, joe biden has said that the middle class, the last four years has been buried. today, he went out there and said he's going to raise taxes, yes, we plan to raise taxes over $twenty1 trillion. your reaction? >> he was half right. it's about $2 trillion. but every now and then, joe is candid. he drops the veil. he was right when he aid the middle class has been buried four years. yes, they are proposing a massive tax increase. two years ago, when they said they were going to prevent a tax increase because of a slow economy, the economy is growing slower than when they said that. they don't have a record to run
i am happy that jim lehrer was willing to ask us our positions on issues and we could describe those. it was not a big gotcha night from the moderator, but instead, a chance for the president and i to go toe to toe on important issues people care about. i thought it was a helpful night n. final analysis, people will decide what kind of america they want. >> sean: congressman ryan, you are up next. there have been a lot of controversial statement, but to save time, in recent weeks, joe...
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jim lehrer was no help at all. i think you are going to see a much more energized barack obama, and all of these smug conservatives saying that paul ryan is going to mop the floor with joe biden. forget about it. >> stephanie: look at his speech. ryan's speech at the rnc, john that was just about as thoroughly fact checked -- >> oh my gosh. that speech just got home to his wife last night. >> stephanie: we just said that's where the jump in jobs has happened in fact checkers. >> yes. >> stephanie: john fugelsang remains in the side car. we continue with the remaining moments of fridays with fugelsang on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: highbrow low brow unibrow. it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. >>current will let me say anything. (vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. >> you know, blaming this economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on th
jim lehrer was no help at all. i think you are going to see a much more energized barack obama, and all of these smug conservatives saying that paul ryan is going to mop the floor with joe biden. forget about it. >> stephanie: look at his speech. ryan's speech at the rnc, john that was just about as thoroughly fact checked -- >> oh my gosh. that speech just got home to his wife last night. >> stephanie: we just said that's where the jump in jobs has happened in fact checkers....
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jim lehrer kept getting kanye'd and that's his own problem. >> did jim lehrer get kanye'd? >> yes, at one point he took the first and last words of two segments in a row just by talking over jim lehrer and not letting him interject. but romney did well performancewise, but we can unpack the substance of his remarks and find them awfully wanting. >> we have two more to go in the vice presidential debate for sure. msnbc's contributors ron reagan and meghan mccain, thank you for waking up with me. >>> fact checkers are having a good day today. they are busy. they need a lot of coffee to keep up. >> he took some short-term gain for long-term pain. last night if mitt romney was talking -- >> the obama campaign in full damage control mode after last night's debate. a lot of facts were being thrown around. more fact checks and half-truths. we want to get your thought on the debate, was mitt romney's debate performance the october surprise? weigh in on twitte twitter @thomasaroberts. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how doe
jim lehrer kept getting kanye'd and that's his own problem. >> did jim lehrer get kanye'd? >> yes, at one point he took the first and last words of two segments in a row just by talking over jim lehrer and not letting him interject. but romney did well performancewise, but we can unpack the substance of his remarks and find them awfully wanting. >> we have two more to go in the vice presidential debate for sure. msnbc's contributors ron reagan and meghan mccain, thank you for...
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. >> that is a little bit too jim cramer for some of you perhaps but it is, in fact, my feeling. there comes a time, it's called attack from a defensive position. the president has been attacked. i think it's time to return the favor to romney. your thoughts this week. >> it's what he had to do in the debate, didn't do, and it's what he has to do every day between now and the next debate. he has to draw the contrast on medicare and straighten out this myth that the president cut $716 million from medicare benefits. he didn't. they're cut from medicare providers like insurance companies that are overcharging. he has to attack on the issue of taxes. there aren't enough tax loopholes or tax deductions to pay for romney's tax cut unless you cut into home interest mortgage deductions, unless you get rid of state and local taxes. that will hit the middle class hard. you have to be honest about this. the debate hurt obama and helped romney, and romney's gotten a bump in the polls, although it seems to be flattening out. you look at the new poll in ohio, the president is at 51%, ronl is
. >> that is a little bit too jim cramer for some of you perhaps but it is, in fact, my feeling. there comes a time, it's called attack from a defensive position. the president has been attacked. i think it's time to return the favor to romney. your thoughts this week. >> it's what he had to do in the debate, didn't do, and it's what he has to do every day between now and the next debate. he has to draw the contrast on medicare and straighten out this myth that the president cut...
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sufficient in that stage, meaning the president didn't need to be there for romney to put on that show and jim lehrer didn't need to be there, it was a romney control of that space and that physical control of that space which was so dominant. i don't think we have seen anything like it before. and in probably a presidential debate. >> rose: we continue request mark halperin of time magazine and benjamin brafman, a leading trial attorney. the mitt romney was on display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot youill and very vague about the stick. >> obama is brilliant in a speech, a peach is different than when you are in an argument and when you are in an argument if you don't bring passion to your argument the other side is generally go
sufficient in that stage, meaning the president didn't need to be there for romney to put on that show and jim lehrer didn't need to be there, it was a romney control of that space and that physical control of that space which was so dominant. i don't think we have seen anything like it before. and in probably a presidential debate. >> rose: we continue request mark halperin of time magazine and benjamin brafman, a leading trial attorney. the mitt romney was on display last night is the...
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jim in an inappropriate way. right back on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ ♪ vice presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> was this the game changer? is this going to change the dynamic? (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >> so keep on tweeting and maybe you'll have your voice be part of this democracy and see your tweets up on our screen. >>now that's politically direct. you'd spot movement, gather intelligence with minimal collateral damage. but rather than neutralizing enemies in their sleep you'd be targeting stocks to trade. well, that's what trade architect's heat maps do. they make you a trading assassin. trade architect. td ameritrade's empowering web-based trading platform. trade commission-free for 60 days, and we'll throw in up to $600 when you open an account. rich, chewy caramel rolled up in smooth milk chocolate. don't forget about that payroll meeting. rolo.get your smooth on. also in minis. [ ♪ music ♪
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moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations are going but both ann romney and first lady michelle obama will be there tomorrow night in denver. one more interesting note, martin, it is the first couple's 20th anniversary tomorrow night. they will be together, they will be together in denver, and they will have a proper celebration this weekend. >> wow. celebrating and working at the same time. nbc's kristin welker. thanks so much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up t
moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations...
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what i was frustrated is failure to use the synapse to pop out and sitting here talking you and ji jim lehr about the pbs funding which is okay and cute and fun to talk about, how about the auto industry, i rescued it and you would let it go bankrupt. >> i am if for equal pay of women, he didn't bring up things and let romney get by with some really distracting and really unclear, in fact, untrue statements about healthcare where he said i am for coverage for preexisting conditions, his people later on said he wasn't and he said, in fact, before that he never was really for covering preexisting conditions unless, you know, it is paid for, ahead of time during, you know, continuing coverage, and a couple of times in the last week he said things like well if you get sick we won't let you die in your apartment and get you to er and yet came on last night talking about a national health plan he had which he really doesn't have. i thought he got away with a lot of things showing sympathy for social security recipients when in the tape recently exposed it was clear he had no sympathy for peo
what i was frustrated is failure to use the synapse to pop out and sitting here talking you and ji jim lehr about the pbs funding which is okay and cute and fun to talk about, how about the auto industry, i rescued it and you would let it go bankrupt. >> i am if for equal pay of women, he didn't bring up things and let romney get by with some really distracting and really unclear, in fact, untrue statements about healthcare where he said i am for coverage for preexisting conditions, his...
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thank you jim. >> thank you governor, thank you mr. president. >> the next debate will be on thursday october 11th. for now from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. >> that's the end of the first >> that's the end of the first presidential debate between governor romney of massachusetts and president obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns in terms of which members of their family will be joining them on stage. this is, these these are negotiated down to this level of detail. in terms of how the overall debate unfolded, i personally do not know who won this debate. i do feel that we saw this debate format die a very painful death on camera tonight. the contrast between the candidates was stylistic as much as substantive. president obama i think calm and basically explanatory tonight. governor romney, more hyper, and i don't mean that in a negative way, just sort of more amped, more assertive. and that mani
thank you jim. >> thank you governor, thank you mr. president. >> the next debate will be on thursday october 11th. for now from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer, thank you and good night. >> that's the end of the first >> that's the end of the first presidential debate between governor romney of massachusetts and president obama. you see both men being greeted by their wives on stage. even this portion of the debate is negotiated ahead of time by the campaigns...
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>> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love these answers. thanks so much, bob shrum. i knew you wouldn't do this. joan, thanks so much. coming up -- yours at least was legitimate. >>> coming up, what can brown do for you? he's running for re-election up in ohio. but he's got karl rove money machine, whole money machine coming at him, and he's taking him on pretty well. he's doing well. we're going to learn something about winning in a good old state like ohio. >>> republicans have been searching without success over the country for voter fraud, and now they finally found it in their own campaign. the biggest case of alleged registration fraud in the country, and the republicans are caught paying for it and holding the bag. we can't wait to get to that one. >>> we're going to visit that parallel republican universe where mitt romney leads, by the way, in every poll in that universe. the republicans really believe in a liberal conspiracy involving all the pollsters of this country left a
>> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love these answers. thanks so much, bob shrum. i knew you wouldn't do this. joan, thanks so much. coming up -- yours at least was legitimate. >>> coming up, what can brown do for you? he's running for re-election up in ohio. but he's got karl rove money machine, whole money machine coming at him, and he's taking him on pretty well. he's doing well....
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mitt romney was more in control of the debate and walked all over jim lehrer and obama didn't fight back. obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think
mitt romney was more in control of the debate and walked all over jim lehrer and obama didn't fight back. obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush,...
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. >> by the way, nobody talked about jim lehrer. are we going to let that go? >> i agree. you know who should have been the moderator? judge judy. >> i guess we are going to let it go. >> back to me. >> you can't have a back to me face. i am skipping that. i am skipping that. i thought this was an interesting fact, can we take greg off the screen please? >> i don't think he blinked yet. >> he looks like actor rob morrow. >> he hasn't blinked yet. >> are you linsion? >> keep it on, he is holding his breath. >> he is holding his breath. >> he is holding his breath, keep it on him. >> that's amazing. >> don't go back. wait until he turns blue. >> boy, now i know why kids do that. it is fun. i'm totally flying. >> "the daily" a fine publication says there is a psychologist founded in 1980 the one who blinks the least will win the popular vote. wednesday's debate, obama blinked an average of 75 times a minute, 55 times a minute for romney. so romney blinked less. >> why do you want a candidate who looks like anthony hopkins in "silence of the lambs." i like blinking. it shows a
. >> by the way, nobody talked about jim lehrer. are we going to let that go? >> i agree. you know who should have been the moderator? judge judy. >> i guess we are going to let it go. >> back to me. >> you can't have a back to me face. i am skipping that. i am skipping that. i thought this was an interesting fact, can we take greg off the screen please? >> i don't think he blinked yet. >> he looks like actor rob morrow. >> he hasn't blinked yet....
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ja, ja, ja. >> that's just a noise. >> jim, jim, jim, would you shut the [ bleep ] up. >> that was a facsimile i think. more from the debate aftermath. the big bird nonsense continues. how did the former gop candidates feel about the mitt romney pledge to stop funding for pbs if elected president? first, rick santorum last night on cnn. >> would you kill big bird? >> well, as a matter of fact, i voted to kill big bird in the past. it doesn't mean i don't like big bird. you can kill things and still like them. maybe to eat them, i don't know. >> you can kill things but still like them? very interesting. >>> on to newt gingrich who went to one zoo after another during his presidential campaign. newt was on cnn last night with former michigan governor jennifer granholm, an active obama supporter of course. let's take a look. >> newt gingrich, should big bird be killed or not? >> that's total baloney. big bird makes millions and millions of dollars annually. >> save big bird! >> it's a commercially profitable show. >> i would save big bird by liberating big bird from the bureaucracy. >>
ja, ja, ja. >> that's just a noise. >> jim, jim, jim, would you shut the [ bleep ] up. >> that was a facsimile i think. more from the debate aftermath. the big bird nonsense continues. how did the former gop candidates feel about the mitt romney pledge to stop funding for pbs if elected president? first, rick santorum last night on cnn. >> would you kill big bird? >> well, as a matter of fact, i voted to kill big bird in the past. it doesn't mean i don't like big...
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jim, thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me on. appreciate it. >> you had no political experience, jim, until you began your campaign. i'm sure your constituents want to hear what makes you qualified to serve in congress? >> i'm a business guy. i've created a lot of jobs. i understand the economy, budgets, how to get things done. obviously michele bachmann doesn't. so i'm prepared to go to congress and get things done, bring people together, make this economy work again and she doesn't. >> you just heard the congresswoman, though. how does your plan for the economy differentiate from hers? >> first and foremost we're not going to lower the minimum wage. that doesn't help anybody. what we need is good wage jobs. she's pledged to go to norquist and coke brothers. i'm pledging myself to the people of the sixth district. i know how to get a budget done. we need to be bipartisan about that, come together and talk reality. real solutions for the real problems. create good livable-wage jobs. i've created thousands of jobs my whole life. s
jim, thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me on. appreciate it. >> you had no political experience, jim, until you began your campaign. i'm sure your constituents want to hear what makes you qualified to serve in congress? >> i'm a business guy. i've created a lot of jobs. i understand the economy, budgets, how to get things done. obviously michele bachmann doesn't. so i'm prepared to go to congress and get things done, bring people together, make this economy...
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two-minute statements, they're each going to get two minutes at the beginning of the subjects that jim leherer will introduce. and discussing not policing 30-second rebuttals and 60-second statements. none of that red light stuff with the clocks and all of that stuff. and when you're in mitt romney's position, where he's actually trying to hide some things, trying to hide the details of the deduction side of his tax plan, he's still hiding his tax returns. when you're that candidate who has things that you don't want to talk about, those very narrow rules are your friend. the red light is your friend. the very limited 30-second response, 60-second response works well for candidate who trying to dodge and trying to get away from things. president obama, i think is going to have an advantage in the way the non-rules are in this debate tonight. and i also think that mitt romney has come off a series of really easy debates. we have to remember, mitt romney triumphed in a republican presidential field that was the worst republican presidential field in the history of the republican party. t
two-minute statements, they're each going to get two minutes at the beginning of the subjects that jim leherer will introduce. and discussing not policing 30-second rebuttals and 60-second statements. none of that red light stuff with the clocks and all of that stuff. and when you're in mitt romney's position, where he's actually trying to hide some things, trying to hide the details of the deduction side of his tax plan, he's still hiding his tax returns. when you're that candidate who has...
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i saw jim lehrer in the green room. it was his fault. >> it was all jim lehrer's fault. >> it was all john kerry's fault. he didn't prep him well enough. >> as you're reeling it off, and harold and sam are agreeing, hey, things are getting better. why didn't he do that? >> well, we've got one more debate. he'd better get over the altitude. >> the altitude. i would say it's not credible. i think you take a step back. 23 million people out of work. >> what i just said is not credible? >> you are credible. but if the president used those lines, they are not credible. >> why? >> i'll tell you. 23 million americans out of work or looking for work, okay? the job picture has not improved. >> what? >> meaning more jobs haven't been created month to month. one out of six people are in poverty. 47 million americans are on food stamps. you can't just get up there and say well, things were bad when i inherited this. four years later they're slightly better. i don't really have any meat on the bones of a plan going forward. >> what
i saw jim lehrer in the green room. it was his fault. >> it was all jim lehrer's fault. >> it was all john kerry's fault. he didn't prep him well enough. >> as you're reeling it off, and harold and sam are agreeing, hey, things are getting better. why didn't he do that? >> well, we've got one more debate. he'd better get over the altitude. >> the altitude. i would say it's not credible. i think you take a step back. 23 million people out of work. >> what i...
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(laughter) jim? >> well, it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deduction. >> let me just -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have-- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> stephen: great answer. (laughter) why-- (cheers and applause) great answer why is it a great answer? well, it would take me too long to explain but trust me t was a great answer. (laughter) besides the american people don't want to hear math. that's why ryan seacrest's top 40 countdown didn't catch on until they added songs. (laughter) now obviously the math behind how romney can give everyone a 20% tax cut without bankrupting the government is just way too advanced for us regular folks to understand. it's unfathommably complex like string theory. you would have to grasp that the universe is actually 11 coexisted dimensions. eight of which are where romney shelters his wealth. (laughter) just trust him, just trust him. (applause) the middle class is broken down by the side of the ro
(laughter) jim? >> well, it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deduction. >> let me just -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have-- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> stephen: great answer. (laughter) why-- (cheers and applause) great answer why is it a great answer? well, it would take me too long to explain but trust me t was a great answer. (laughter) besides the american people don't want to hear math....